the good girl game changers podcast
Season 4 - Episode 3
By Chelle McQuaid
It happens in a single, excruciating second.
I'm mid-sentence in an online video interview with one of the world's leading researchers on human motivation — a woman I've admired for years — when I hear the words come out of my mouth. I call her very confidently and clearly by the entirely wrong name.
Oh God. She heard that. She knows.
My face immediately flushes bright red. Every muscle in my body tightens and my mind scrambles through the options to try and cover my tracks.
This is the moment I've been quietly dreading my whole career. The one that proves to everyone what my inner critic has been whispering all along: that I'm not quite good enough.
Then she looks straight down the camera at me — calm, unhurried, completely at ease, "I think you meant Carol. Congratulations, Michelle. You're human, just like everybody else."
And we laugh. My shoulders drop. My jaw softens.
In that moment, I'm not failing. I'm not being found out. I'm just a perfectly imperfect person who got something wrong in front of another perfectly imperfect person.
And apparently, that's fine.
How the hell had I gotten stuck in this idea that I had to do it all perfectly?
It's a question worth sitting with. Because if you've ever felt that particular clench of dread when you make a mistake, you'll know that this isn't about getting a word wrong. It's about what that mistake means. About you, your worth, your right to be in the room at all.
That fear has a name. And Dr Carol Dweck has spent decades studying it.
Which is exactly why, when she joined us on the podcast this week, I wanted to understand not just what she's learned about the way our minds respond to failure — but what it might mean for those of us who've spent a lifetime performing our way around the possibility of being found out.
If any part of that resonates, I think you'll find her insights as quietly steadying as I did.